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rotekz · 03-06-2012, 04:40 PM

(03-06-2012 04:34 PM)Shark007 Wrote:
(03-06-2012 04:31 PM)rotekz Wrote: so it's back to square one really.

am sorry to hear that.
If you access the [setup LAV audio] on the Audio TAB, there is an audio delay control in the upper right.

It is my guess, Media Control is the cause of your problems but i do not know of any replacement to suggest.

I'll do some tests without media control installed and let you know. Thank you for your help with this.

rotekz · 03-07-2012, 01:24 PM

I've tested now with media control uninstalled and it made no difference. The problem of audio sync is caused solely by FFDShow as the video codec. I can't drop it because losing subtitles is not an option. Media Control is not so important.

I also tried XBMC with LAV audio/video 32 bit codecs. I gave me everything; good pcm/bitstream audio sync, audio/subtitle choice but for some bizarre reason would not bitstream HD audio. It would strip the DTS core from DTS-HD so is not an option. Unless you know how to fix that of course!

Shark007 · 03-07-2012, 01:31 PM

(03-07-2012 01:24 PM)rotekz Wrote: I've tested now with media control uninstalled and it made no difference. The problem of audio sync is caused solely by FFDShow as the video codec. I can't drop it because losing subtitles is not an option. Media Control is not so important.

When I stated media Control was the cause of your problems, I should have been more specific. Since Media Control requires ffdshow, it was the cause. Setting the Microsoft decoder on the H264 TAB will give you subtitles using DirectVobSub

(03-07-2012 01:24 PM)rotekz Wrote: I also tried XBMC with LAV audio/video 32 bit codecs. I gave me everything; good pcm/bitstream audio sync, audio/subtitle choice but for some bizarre reason would not bitstream HD audio. It would strip the DTS core from DTS-HD so is not an option. Unless you know how to fix that of course!

XBMC does not use codecs (directshow filters) such as LAV.

rotekz · 03-07-2012, 02:03 PM

Thanks, the MS codec does give subs without the audio sync issues.

I have the choice then of using either;

the MS decoder and losing control over which audio/sub streams play.

the FFDShow codec and occasionally having to change the audio delay setting when DD+ is decoded to PCM.

Changing the audio delay seems to be the lesser hassle so I guess I'll be sticking with FFDShow for now.

Thanks for helping explore the options. It is much appreciated.

Shark007 · 03-07-2012, 02:05 PM

(03-07-2012 02:03 PM)rotekz Wrote: Thanks, the MS codec does give subs without the audio sync issues.

I have the choice then of using either;

the MS decoder and losing control over which audio/sub streams play.

your statement is not correct.
you can rightclick the green directvobsub systray arrow and access both audio and subtitle selections

rotekz · (This post was last modified: 03-07-2012 03:38 PM by rotekz.)

I didn't know you could do that. Unfortunately directvobsub doesn't seem to work well with all movies.
Changing stream from DD+ to Dolby True HD makes media centre crash. I guess it doesnt like the swap from PCM to Bitstream.
If there are multiple audio streams but no subs in a film you don't get the directvobsub icon in the sys tray so can't change audio stream.
Selecting the subs doesn't make them display for all films. I need to test this further.

So although it works a lot of the time testing briefly tonight there were several films that had issues with it. Media Control seems to be a bit more reliable in operation.

Shark007 · 03-07-2012, 03:40 PM

(03-07-2012 03:36 PM)rotekz Wrote: Media Control seems to be a bit more reliable in operation.

agreed.