Vista x64 Explorer Thumbnail Crash

[Tiffany]

(04-30-2012 03:33 AM)Xanashi Wrote:  Hmm....

Let's try to rule one thing out at a time.

For testing, could you try uninstalling Shark's codecs, and install the standalone version of Icaros,
with the installer from the same post as before?

Remember to activate it after installation.

As a test what I've done is I've uninstalled all Shark007, then installed Vista 6.2.6, and x64 2.2.8 (super old version), and thumbnailing works perfectly (as far as no crashes, though some files seem to not render thumbnails - all avi files or m4v, if you're curious, though some avi files display fine).

Video: Xvid 480x352 29.97fps [Stream 00]
Audio: MPEG Audio Layer 3 44100Hz stereo 128kbps [Stream 01]
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 327 MiB
Duration : 29mn 16s
Overall bit rate : 1 559 Kbps
Writing application : Lavf52.108.0

Video
ID : 0
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : Simple@L1
Format settings, BVOP : No
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
Codec ID : XVID
Codec ID/Hint : XviD
Duration : 29mn 16s
Bit rate : 1 418 Kbps
Width : 480 pixels
Height : 352 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.280
Stream size : 297 MiB (91%)
Writing library : Lavc52.120.0

Audio
ID : 1
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 3
Mode : Joint stereo
Codec ID : 55
Codec ID/Hint : MP3
Duration : 29mn 16s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 128 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 26.8 MiB (8%)
Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration : 26 ms (0.78 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration : 417 ms
Writing library : LAME3.97

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Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 480x320 15fps 820kbps [Video]
Audio: 0x4441 44100Hz stereo 125kbps [Audio]
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Apple iPhone
Codec ID : M4VP
File size : 139 MiB
Duration : 20mn 29s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 949 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-11-07 00:30:10
Tagged date : UTC 2010-11-07 00:31:09

Video
ID : 2
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Baseline@L2.1
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 20mn 29s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 820 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 4 006 Kbps
Width : 480 pixels
Height : 320 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 3:2
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 15.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.356
Stream size : 120 MiB (86%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2010-11-07 00:14:02
Tagged date : UTC 2010-11-07 00:31:09
Color primaries : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M

Audio
ID : 1
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 20mn 29s
Source duration : 20mn 29s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 128 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 18.4 MiB (13%)
Source stream size : 18.4 MiB (13%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2010-11-07 00:14:02
Tagged date : UTC 2010-11-07 00:31:09

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Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 720x480 (16:9) 23.974fps 1462kbps [Video]
Audio: 0x4441 48000Hz stereo 95kbps [Audio]
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
File size : 357 MiB
Duration : 31mn 55s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 1 564 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2011-07-06 23:18:22
Tagged date : UTC 2011-07-06 23:23:01
Writing application : HandBrake 0.9.5 2011010300

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 31mn 55s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 1 462 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Original display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Minimum frame rate : 7.908 fps
Maximum frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.176
Stream size : 334 MiB (93%)
Writing library : x264 core 112
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=2 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=hex / subme=6 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=9 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=2 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=0 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date : UTC 2011-07-06 23:18:22
Tagged date : UTC 2011-07-06 23:23:01
Color primaries : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 31mn 55s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 96.0 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 117 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -160ms
Stream size : 21.9 MiB (6%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2011-07-06 23:18:22
Tagged date : UTC 2011-07-06 23:23:00

Text
ID : 3
Format : Apple text
Codec ID : text
Duration : 31mn 55s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 bps
Stream size : 240 Bytes (0%)
Encoded date : UTC 2011-07-06 23:18:22
Tagged date : UTC 2011-07-06 23:23:01

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Video: Xvid 512x288 29.97fps [Stream 00]
Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz stereo 192kbps [Stream 01]
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 486 MiB
Duration : 39mn 43s
Overall bit rate : 1 711 Kbps
Writing application : VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 (build 2540/release)
Writing library : VirtualDubMod build 2540/release

Video
ID : 0
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings, BVOP : 1
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
Muxing mode : Packed bitstream
Codec ID : XVID
Codec ID/Hint : XviD
Duration : 39mn 43s
Bit rate : 1 507 Kbps
Width : 512 pixels
Height : 288 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.341
Stream size : 428 MiB (88%)
Writing library : XviD 1.2.0.dev47 (UTC 2006-11-01)

Audio
ID : 1
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : 2000
Duration : 39mn 43s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : 3ms
Stream size : 54.6 MiB (11%)
Alignment : Split accross interleaves
Interleave, duration : 33 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration : 500 ms

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^ few examples of ones that don't display any thumbnails with 2.8.8.

I've tested a few video playbacks including 10-bit videos, and they seem to work just fine.

What's the point of the x64 component pack, just for thumbnail generation basically, right? Assuming I don't use 64-bit players...

Something definitely seems to be wrong with the newer versions of the thumbnailing software. If you're not experiencing it, it may be a Vista thing you've overlooked testing on W7.

[Xanashi]

Please try this:

Quote:For testing, could you try uninstalling Shark's codecs, and install the standalone version of Icaros,
with the installer from the same post as before?

Remember to activate it after installation.

It's the only way we can know if it's related to Icaros (in Vista) or not.

[Tiffany]

(04-30-2012 03:56 AM)Xanashi Wrote:  Please try this:

Quote:For testing, could you try uninstalling Shark's codecs, and install the standalone version of Icaros,
with the installer from the same post as before?

Remember to activate it after installation.

It's the only way we can know if it's related to Icaros (in Vista) or not.

After uninstalling all Shark007 and using the standalone Icaros installer mentioned earlier, thumbnails do not cause crashes and work as previously in 2.8.8 (except actually, 1 extra video shows thumbnail now that did not previously). Zero crashes. And actually, if I add ".avi" to the settings app and activate, then all thumbnails show perfectly (not just some, ALL), and zero crashing. Perfect.

So I assume it's some problem with the latest x64 component. Maybe it doesn't install Icaros properly or something?

Seems that the thing to do for the time being for me will be to install the latest Vista pack, but omit x64 components and simply use your standalone Icaros for thumbnailing.

edit: Just as an update, I re-installed the latest Vista pack and did custom install, disable "Thumbnail views" (not sure if I needed to, but I didn't want to risk it), while not installing the x64 pack, and leaving your standalone Icaros, and everything seems perfect for me now as far as I can tell.

[Xanashi]

(04-30-2012 04:12 AM)Tiffany Wrote:  After uninstalling all Shark007 and using the standalone Icaros installer mentioned earlier, thumbnails do not cause crashes and work as previously in 2.8.8 (except actually, 1 extra video shows thumbnail now that did not previously). Zero crashes. And actually, if I add ".avi" to the settings app and activate, then all thumbnails show perfectly (not just some, ALL), and zero crashing. Perfect.

Great ^_^ Glad it worked out.

(04-30-2012 04:12 AM)Tiffany Wrote:  So I assume it's some problem with the latest x64 component. Maybe it doesn't install Icaros properly or something?

Perhaps, I'm not sure. I'll take it up with Shark, as soon as he feels up to it.
It's probably something trivial.

(04-30-2012 04:12 AM)Tiffany Wrote:  Seems that the thing to do for the time being for me will be to install the latest Vista pack, but omit x64 components and simply use your standalone Icaros for thumbnailing.

If you don't use any x64 players (like WMC), this would be the way to go for now.
You just confirmed it, as well.

Thanks for testing! ;-)

[Tiffany]

Glad I could help! My problem is solved too, so consider it a little quid pro quo.